>> the government, this is the first step, roland, that the obama administration wants to do. they want to go much farther than this, and there are a lot of people, including myself, that doesn't believe that the federal government should have this type of registry. >> state governments, if you want to conceal a handgun, you have to apply for it. that's a public record. that particular document there. and this is the argument that the nra makes. let's not do any one step, because that could be the first step that leads to this, as opposed to saying, wait a minute, is this a logical first step and if someone wants to go further, we'll fight that. but trying to stop it before it even frankly -- >> i don't understand how it's intimidation. >> i would say the first steps have already been taken this is a continuation of those . >> are you a gun owner? >> i do. >> do you feel like now that people know you have a shotgun. >> if they publish my name and put is on a website, my home address, and a picture of my house, i would feel that's nobody elses business. i don't believe that the